A somewhat 'unsetling' question...
Hey again.
I had a question which I must say has me a little concerned.
I've just recently taken the first steps toward requesting membership in a local Lodge. I've been interested in Freemasonry for years and have done a fair amount of reading on the subject, viewd web pages, etc.
Yet just the other day a fellow I know only via the internet, and on a completely unrelated forum mentioned something about 'hazings' in Freemasonry, and that he himself had experienced something to that end - though when I questioned him further he would say no more. Then I heard something similar from a second person...
Needless to say I was astonished and thought I was being told a line of nonsense. I thought that surely a fraternal organization of honorable gentlemen would not resort to 'Animal House-like' beatings of candidates or initiates.
So that's my unsettling question: Are there such kinds of things going on in certain Lodges?
No doubt I have been misinformed, but I'd sure like to know for sure before I proceed further with my application.
Regards
Wolfman
I hate when people say things like that to new candidates. Everyone is nervous before their initiation and that crap just makes things worse. As Bro. Osirus said, you have nothing to worry about.
Hi, BC Mason & Osiris
Thanks for your words on the subject. Its good to know I won't have to put up with anything like that. I kind of didn't believe it when I heard it, but just wanted to be sure.
Regards
No prob, Im glad we could clear that up for you.
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Actually, hazings are taking place in some clandestine Lodges in the U.S. This is not happening in mainstream Masonry, but non Masons do not know the difference between those that are legitimate, and the clandestine. It is up to us in recognised Lodges to inform our new candidates that things like this will NOT happen in our Lodges.
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Thats about it. Statements to make you nervous before initiation are about as far as a hazing will go. Even that much is usually frowned on. Rest assured there is nothing like the initiation of Homer in the Simpsons Stone-Cutter episode. The initiation is a solum ceramony and candidates are nervous enough without help.
In my lodge we discurage attempts to make a candidate nervous and there are certainly no hazing rituals. I make a point of taking new candidates aside and attempting to waylay their fears.
You have nothing to worry about.
The lodge must have an Initiatic Focus, which means that the brethren must always remember that striving to improve themselves in Masonry and assisting candidates and fellow brethren in doing the same is chief among their duties.